my point is, dont come into an area where coal mining is life and say you back coal, when you clearly dont.
my point is, dont come into an area where coal mining is life and say you back coal, when you clearly dont.
Cant we all just get along?
All the cap and trade part of that bill did was require them to buy permits for their emissions, then that money used for clean-coal technology - if they didn't buy the permits, they would pay hefty fines/taxes, but the permits really would not be that high at all. This was the whole part of Bouchers Amendment to the bill, since cap and trade was such a tiny part of the much larger bill, he made it to where most of those permits would be free/very low cost...but Griffith ran away with that and said he "co-wrote the bill", but that was his amendment to it and by house rules if you add an amendment like that and it get approved..you have to vote "yes" on the entire bill. Which is why he voted "yes", but again, Griffith took that and ran...and unfortunately the public was not interested in those real facts, just those catchy 30 sec ads and the "Boucher Betrayed Coal" yardsigns did all the swaying they needed. Yeah, us young people are so gullible huh?
But I ask, do you agree or disagree with those quotes I posted last night?
like i said, WHEN we have the clean coal burning technology then yes, tax the absolute and utter dog fuck out of anyone that doesnt conform to those standards, but taxing people because they cant afford a new technology or a technology hasnt been developed yet is a bad idea and would absolutely have killed coal mining. Beyond that, I agree with all of it.Originally Posted by R13
this is all the past so it doesnt matter anyhow, but Biden did tell an eco freak that there would be NO new coal plants built in america while they were well would potentially be in office. he said to ship it overseas. this all has nothing to do with the point i was making though, which was......... do not come into an area where you know the backbone of the economy (sadly) is coal mining and tell the people that you are all about coal mining, when in reality you do not support it at all.
Cant we all just get along?
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So I just can't keep it in anymore, those quotes I posted earlier were not from Senator/Presidential hopeful Barack Obama...they were from Senator/Presidential hopeful John McCain, from a stump speech in Nevada and his campaign website in 2008. What most people around here don't know is that McCain has been a big proponent of cap and trade legislation for years, before Obama was even in the Senate he was pushing for it. But people don't care enough to check the facts, they just assumed McCain was against it, when really he's a bigger supporter of it then Obama.
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